UM, AND I WENT UP AND TALKED TO MS. MOORE AND SHE GOT AARON OUT OF CLASS. Before Pam went to work she made a dinner of green beans and steak. Not until it was learned that Terry was using Jacoby as an alibi and that a hair that was found at the crime scene turned out to be consistent with Davids DNA. I rewatched the paradise lost docs and in the last one, just before the murders, Pam had "kissed a Mexican" and Terry said that years later when he brought on the lawsuit with Natalie Maines. A boy who is passed out does not need his clothes ripped off as quickly or roughly as one who is awake and struggling. Also, according to LGs aunt, Dixie, LGs mother, Linda, came to her work the next day asking where he had been the night before. Terry did not tell me who he was calling until hed completed the phone call and came out to the car. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. LG also lied extensively about his whereabouts the night of the 5th. Furthermore, the time the boys were seen doing this is also around the time that Aaron Hutchinson claimed they had first seen the men in the woods. (source) LG had been job hunting that day and was likely wearing a shirt and tie for his interviews. JMB is a freaking nut but I think he loved Michelle so much that when Chris died, she did, too. RIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU CAME TO THE AREA? After doing so, they most likely would have walked down south in the ditch till the water was the deep enough and also not directly beside the crime scene. We know from multiple sightings, including Michaels mother, that the three boys were on two bikes riding on 14th, headed to Goodwin St. at 6pm. The second that Terry would have hit Michael in the face or head, would also be the split second he knew all three had to die. WHAT DID YOU ALL HIDE AND WAIT FOR THEM?AARON: YEAH (YES) WILL WE ALWAYS. The only reason one could think that someone would make the concerted, and possibly dangerous, effort to take the bikes up to the bayou to be submerged, was to give themselves time to create an alibi. SO THIS FRIGHTENED ME, SO I GOT AARON OUT OF THERE AND WE WENT HOME. Apparently, he had told family members that his mother found a pair of his bloody shoes and when he talked about the murders at work, he lead people to believe he somehow knew something or was in someway involved. The darkest shit about all of this, is that they sensationalized this case as some bullshit Satanic fantasy. and all of it just covers up the sobering truth: this kind of child murder happens every day. If we want to understand why those boys might have gotten killed in those woods we need not look further than Aarons own statements made to police shortly after the murders. When you look at the evidence as a whole, it is quite clear and truly undeniable what really occurred that tragic day. Jackie Jr. survived the shooting, but died years later as a result of complications pertaining to his injuries. VICKIE: IN MIDDLE AFTERNOONRIDGE: OKAY, AND WHAT DID YOU FIND WHEN YOU CAME TO THE AREA? This is when Jamie would have remembered seeing Terry out on the sidewalk calling the boys home just as they would have shot out onto the street from her house. Additionally, his cousin, Charlotte claims that he was at Lakeshore before the murders, left and did not come back till the next day. Facebook. Ive thought about this in length and I think I understand what may have occurred. It has baffled people for years because there was no evidence that the boys were sexually assaulted. He was one of four children and came from a strict and religious family. RIDGE: HAVE YOU BEEN THERE BEFORE? Yet, when Jared asked about the evidence possibly being tested in the future, Hobbs said he was against testing anything else and as far as he was concerned, the case was solved when Echols, Misskelly, and Baldwin were arrested. I believe it was because Stevie was hit repeatedly on the left side of the face by LG. Again, If we believe Billy Stewarts statement, the murders were predicated by a sexual act which could further explain why so many seemingly unnecessary acts occurred. However, therearesuspects and there is an abundance of evidence open to the public. There was evidence to suggest that Aaron was telling the truth about the clubhouse because wooden planks were in fact found and collected by police. If Terry had been spotted driving around with LG by either the Moores, Byers or any policemen who might have been in the vicinity, that could have raised some difficult questions for Terry to answer. RIDGE: OKAY. (source) Additionally, a roommate of Richards also testified that LG was not at their home on the 5th but that he remembered LGs mother calling looking for him. Here are two statements made by Narlene to police about LG. When Narlene was interviewed she claimed to have dropped LG off at his home. He was one of four children and came from a strict and religious family. However, is it simply a coincidence that the statements that Aaron told police in 1993 coincide so perfectly with the alleged confessions that Buddy and LG made in 1994 and were later retold in 2012? One of the mysteries of this crime is the location of the bodies in the drainage ditch. The ME examiner again supports this alleged statement, as Stevie, although probably the most conscious during the attack had little to no defensive wounds. That 1 cop will have bumped into everyone in that southern, 90s, dick-liking community. The only person whose DNA would be in that ligature isthe person who tied the knots, Echols said. Two of the childrens clothes were found inside out, implying that they were very quickly ripped off, and most likely ripped off of boys who were still moving. I think Michelle died of a broken heart, possibly organ failure due to drug abuse. The clubhouse was a spot where Aaron, Chris and Michael would go play in the Blue Beacon Woods. One mystery that has plagued people who have followed the case, is why it appeared that Stevie and Chris were tortured while Michael was not. Terry Hobbs, the stepfather of another one of the murdered boys. According to Fox 13 Memphis, Benca previously said the evidence was intact and they plan to move ahead and test this evidenceusing the latest DNA technology available to hopefully identify the real killer(s) of the three children in 1993 and exonerate Damien Echols, Jason Baldwin, and Jesse Misskelley.. My theory is that when Stevie saw Terry there, he was scared, very scared. On the north side of the pipe bridge, very close to the Blue Beacon woods, a woman on the service road saw the three boys riding their bicycles at approx. My opinion is that Terry wanted to humiliate the boys becausehefelt humiliated when the boys caught him involved in a sex act with other men. Apparently, Stevie had injuries to his penis that he believed were self inflicted. Remember that LGs own mother was looking for him that night, despite the claim that he was allegedly dropped off at her home. At the time of the murders, LG was only 19 and spent most of his time with an unmarried man who was in his 50s. RIDGE: THESE MEN. Well, the alleged confessions from Buddy and LG finally answer that question. This subreddit is dedicated to the West Memphis Three and the ongoing mystery of who really killed the boys they were wrongly convicted for murdering. Narlene interjected herself all over this case. RIDGE: OKAY, UH, YOUR SAYING THEIR DOING THINGS LIKE MAN AND WOMEN WOULD BE DOING. WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY WHEN YOU GOT OUT OF SCHOOL WHAT WAS IT THEY WERE GOING TO DO THAT DAY? Chris Byers brother and others also confirmed that the boys played in those woods very often and the very first statements made by both Aaron and Vickie were that Aaron and the boys played in those woods and secretly watched men engage in sex. (1) Strangely, Buddy first says that he has a man who will testify that he worked with Buddy all that day and then later on in the conversation, Buddy claims that his boss will testify that he was at work on the 5th. I think we have the answer now; Stevie and Chris appeared to have been tortured because they were the ones who were conscious. I think you're on to something here. RIDGE: DOING NASTY STUFF, WHERE DID YOU SEE THEM DOING THIS STUFF? that triggers narcissistic rage, he blacks out with rage and goes too far. You should see the other documentary WEST OF MEMPHIS There youll be more secure. "I was yelling for Terry to get out, and ultimately Terry ran out of my home and ran downstairs into his unit. RIDGE: WAS IT THERE WHERE YOUR CLUB IS OR WAS IT SOME WHERE ELSE IN THOSE WOODS? -3:30 Christopher shows up looking for the boys. Additionally, Michael Moore was tied on one side of his body using a somewhat complicated knot, called a Square Knot. Especially considering that they are remembering this event 18 years later for one, and for two, there were multiple sightings of the boys from 6pm-6:30 on the street beside the woods, quite a ways away from the Hobbs home, as well as the woods themselves. What reasons could there possibly be for not being honest about the night a horrific murder of children took place? Terry was born in Northern Arkansas and grew up in the Ozark Mountain region of the state. The photo on the left is Stevies bitemark and the photos on the right are other known bitemarks. WHAT DID IT SMELL LIKE DID IT STINK? TH & DJ supposedly killed the boys so they wouldnt snitch on them. had been during the evening on 5-5-93. He told police that Jessie had confessed to him and that he said that he had just held the boys while the others killed them. If Michael had kicked Terry that could have been the impetus that pushed Terry to hit him back. Im not sure if that rumor is true or not, but I do believe TH may have done it & DJ knew about it. As he leaned over Michael and removed his clothes, a hair from Terrys head or mustache fell onto Michaels body. Terry Hobbs was reported missing from Kinard on April 20, but his family said the last time anyone. However, knowing that a DNA sample was found on Stevies penis coupled with the knowledge that Chris may have allegedly been bitten on his penis and scrotum as well, I feel the chances are quite high that Stevie, too, may have been bitten in his penis. VICKIE: UM, WEST MEMPHIS POLICE HAD ALL OF THE AREA ROPED OFF, VICKIE: I WENT TO THE DEAD END IT WAS YOU KNOW. I met Terry Hobbs through a mutual friend, Roy Taylor. If anyone might know where the boys were going or what their plans had been for that day, it would most likely have been Aaron. Another indicator that points to Terrys guilt and the truth in the alleged Buddy/LG statements, lies with what was discovered on Michael Moores body. If she really didnotsee Damien on the road that night (which shedidnt) why was shesosure that Damien was not with his mother? . The four men beat the boys, tied them up and threw them and their clothes into the ditch of water. Terry Hobbs absolutely killed the boys and the neighbor girl said he had seen them right before the boys died. I understood that Terry had not previously called the police to report that Stevie was missing.. Even more damaging is the specifics of the way the three boys were tied up. AARON: I THINK THEY WENT DOWN THERE. RIDGE WHO WERE WORKING IN CONSTRUCTION WORK? Allegedly, the four men made it to a spot in the Blue Beacon Woods and Terry Hobbs asked the teens to wrestle each other. VICKIE: HE STAYED. Apparently, the medical examiner stated that the fine scratches on Stevies penis are similar to those from children who have sexually abused, i.e: given oral sex. David Jacoby is the key to this case. West Memphis Three: Who is the real killer behind the brutal - MEAWW Additionally, in both alleged confessions, David Jacoby was also wearing shorts. If the bikes had been found immediately, then the focus would have very quickly zeroed in on the people who were last with the victims. On Nov. 6 police in Memphis responded to a call that someone had been shot at 4460 Kerwin St., the home of Pamela and Terry Hobbs. In addition to that, when the boys autopsies were performed, animal hair was discovered on them. And keep in mind how high the possibility is that Narlene lied about dropping LG off and what that might mean. Why was he lying? Then for a time, I thought it was JMB. As Brent Turvey wrote in his profile of the criminal, the man who perpetrated this act against Christopher is a closet homosexual who carries shame about his homosexual tendencies. What purpose would there be to strip the boys naked? Either the perps knew the possibility of the bodies floating with time, or, the area where the bodies could be dropped in was not deep enough to completely hide them. My belief is that these items were used in the clean up. Terry and Pam see Dawn Moore and tell her they are looking for Stevie. If Terry truly had bitten and stabbed Chris scrotum, it would explain perfectly the questions around Chris death. At the same time, considering the trampled crime scene and shoddy police work, would the cops have even documented the sight of animal prints or tire tracks even if they did see it? And why would Jacoby publicly and openly admit that he lied under penalty of perjury and to police back in 2007? Friday, January 20th 2012. It seems more likely that someonesawHobbs make a pass at Jacoby and then told Natalie Maines lawyers about it. This theory supportsbothsides of the debate. If that is true, then that is more evidence to support Billys statements as being factual. RIDGE OKAY, NOW THE CONVERSATION YOU HAD WITH HIS AUNT WHAT IS HER NAME AGAIN? CHRISTY, I WAS TALKING TO A GIRL NAMED CHRISTY AND SHE TOLD ME THAT SHE THOUGHT THEY HAD FOUND ONE OF THE BODIES. Richard took another polygraph saying that LG was not with him the night of the 5th and he passed. So although at least some experts said the boys were not punched, I dont believe thats true at all. So the chance of them basing their statements off of the practically endless information found on the internet is nil. Everybody said that Damian, I know that hes suppose to have 666 on his shoes. In 2011, after 18 years in prison, the three innocent men were released on an Alford Plea. You have to remember that during this time these two men were quite young, mid twenties/mid thirties and they had just gotten off of work, they had Davids wife Bobby to watch the kids, Pam was at work and Stevie was playing with his friends and wouldnt be back till 8pm. I went back and read all the autopsy reports and attempted to interpret them. To add further suspicion, LGs cousin, Domini lived within a five minute walk from Richards house. http://callahan.8k.com/pdf/de_dnamotion3_30_11.pdf. He also claimed that Jessie said he had punched a couple in the back of the head. I personally believe that this boy was Michael Moore. Since Stevie was Terrys stepchild, its possible that Terry wanted to depersonalize Stevies face, which could make it easier for him to carry out the attack on him. Those partially digested vegetables not only prove the long held belief that the boys died around 7pm, shortly after being seen, but that Stevie most likely ate those vegetables right near 5:00 pm. This theory was supported by police who were at the crime scene. David Jacoby also claimed to have seen the three boys in the street at this time; one on a skateboard and the others on bikes. Furthermore, it is highly unlikely that anyone other than Terry Hobbs and David Jacoby committed this crime and Ill briefly explain why. With advancements in DNA testing, hopefully we will soon know exactly whose DNA this very small sample belongs to. That leaves one very glaring, unexplainable question. OKAY WHAT WERE THESE MAN DOING? However, she drove a small four door car and there would be no room to pick up her sister if she already had six people in her car. Both teens allegedly confessed that on the late afternoon of May 5th, 1993, they had been walking around Lakeshore trailer park when Terry Hobbs and David Jacoby pulled up next to them. RIDGE: DID YOU EVER SMELL THE SMOKE? Look what you made me do! I believe the clubhouse was mainly a concealed spot where the boys played. When police were searching for the boys on the fifth, they were not inspecting a crime scene, they were simply trying to find three boys. This would make the Ballard sighting of 6:30 next to impossible if not impossible, considering the boys were found in those woods and the time of death was most likely 7pm. At this time, I was afraid that Terry would rape, harm or even kill me. He was home during the evenings when his wife worked a four-hour shift at Catfish Island. This could have given him ample time to clean the area. What is equally disturbing, is that both Domini and Damien had solid alibis for that time period. When police told him they were going to polygraph him about Jessies alleged confession, Buddy immediately admitted that he had lied; Jessie never said anything to him about the murders. At 6:40 the men may have shown up in the BB woods, some wrestling may have occurred and some drinking and/or smoking and even the beginning of sexual activity. Which means hecouldhave been walking with Buddy right at the time Terry and David would have shown up. Why in the world were the two men (or Terry alone) searching for the boys when it was light out if Terry had already said that Stevie could stay out till 8:00 pm? The most likely answer is that Stevie, Chris and Michael were playing behind Jamie Ballards home probably right around 5:00 as they headed on there way to Stevies house. I'm digging into this right now. He had a history of crime and domestic violence, and he shot his brother-in-law, allegedly in self-defense. Some details of this timeline are facts, corroborated by multiple sources, other details are merely theories of what may have taken place on the evening of May 5th, 1993. I remember when the news broke and sitting in my living room floor crying and holding my new daughter I have read, watched and researched as much as I could throughout the years. RIDGE: ALRIGHT. He also confirmed that one of the teens, Buddy Lucas, had admitted to his involvement in the murders with the other three men. SO THIS FRIGHTENED ME, SO I GOT AARON OUT OF THERE AND WE WENT HOME. Terry Wayne Hobbs was born on May 21st, 1958. In addition to Billys statements and the similar questions asked in the 2009 deposition that both pointed to Terry Hobbs being an alleged homosexual or bisexual man, the criminal profiler Brent Turvey claimed in 1996 that whoever committed this murder was a closet homosexual who projected a macho image. SO WHAT HAPPENED NEXT? According to Pam Hicks, Terry was wearing shorts that afternoon. I believe the known evidence supports the notion that Terry said yes, but that Stevie went inside to eat dinner first. The bottom line is very simple: Terry, David, LG and Buddy all liedabout their whereabouts that night. Anyone who has owned a dog, knows how dogs will lick blood clean in a matter of minutes. That means that they may have punched Stevie, but may not have taken it farther than that. VICKIE: SO THEN UM, II JUST GOT AARON OUT OF THERE BECAUSE YOU KNOW. This suggests that Terry Hobbs was the person who tied up Michael Moore and it is further supported by the manner in which Michael was tied up. Upon arriving home with his younger daughter, he told police that he did not see his older step-son, Stevie. Michael was almost immediately rendered unconscious ( I believe because he was attacked first). Currently, Hobbs has not been charged with anything related to the murders. When he was finished with that, I believe he then turned to Stevie. One of the most vital components of this theory is whether LG and Buddy had alibis for this night. Based on the reports made available to the public pertaining to Damien's mental health issues, this is a flat out lie. The podcast Dark Dark World just released an episode (#23) with a narrative positing a theory about Terry Hobbs as the possible murderer. Flashback to 1993, 4 months after the murders, Pam said that Terry told her he didn't get mad, he got even. Michael was later stripped, perhaps so he would not stand out. Because she was lying and both she and LG knew it. Had LG engaged in sexual activity with Hobbs and Jacoby prior to this day? hobbs is high on my list, but with what we know (or lack thereof,) there's simply no way to say anyone is "for sure" guilty in this case. When the boys were found, along with their clothes the following day, there were two pairs of underwear and 5 socks missing from the crime scene. When I rewatched PL1, Pam and Terry had broken up when she did the interview outside when she put Stevie's scarf on her head (she was in a red dress). LG, as well, had raised some suspicions himself by carrying on an unusual relationship with a much older man. The suspicious part about this is that in a deposition taken in 2009, Terry Hobbs had the very same allegations implied against him that Billy Stewart made in 2013, four years later, but this time the implications were made by Natalie Maines lawyers. Is there any other reason why hed admit on national television that he lied? He actually worked in a slaughterhouse. In my assessment, it speaks volumes to the guilt of Terry Hobbs that the children were tied up in the same manner as hogs being prepared for transport and that two of the children were tied up using square knots and figure eight knots, the same knots used by farmers and butchers. Although I have gone into great detail describing how this murder took place, in reality, the experts believed it would have only taken around 20 minutes to carry the murder out. In addition to the Ballard sighting, there is more evidence that supports the boys were with Terry around 5pm. THEY UM. This report http://callahan.8k.com/wm3/shadi.html details an incident where Damien got into a physical fight with another student and made numerous threats against him and his family. He most likely began to tie up one side of Stevie using a figure eight knot and then went to Michael and tied up one side of him with a square knot. It's pure evil and hate. In order to have a deeper understanding of what happened, we must start at the beginning. NO, UM I WENT DOWN TO THE MOORES HOUSE TO SEE TODD AND DANA MOORE AND YOU KNOW JUST TO SEE YOU KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON, AND UM, TODD ASKED ME VICKIE DO YOU THINK MAYBE AARON KNOWS WHERE THEIR AT? I dont know what L. G. is capable of, and I am not saying that he would do it, and I am not saying that he wouldnt, but I know Damian. In truth, this theory would finally explain and clarify, really,why the boys had animal hair on them if they were pulled from the water.
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